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| Bike I ride: | Pivot Phoenix for DH; Ibis Mojo HD for AM |
| Favorite Trails: | Pipe Dream, Blue Velvet-Freight Train, Pioneer |
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Awesome. Great to hear you guys are having fun over there, sounds pretty epic. Looking forward to seeing more reports!
I have a Phoenix, and I can tell you the build and finish quality is second to none; but the most important part is the design. DW knows how to properly engineer suspension on a multitude of levels, whereas most other brands just work based on feel and look. So Pivot have taken a great design (custom engineered for each of their models) and combined it with really strong, reliable bearings so that the bike feels and performs super tight , and stays that way. I have been through a lot of bikes (Santa Cruz, IH Sunday, Specialized, etc) and I think the Phoenix is the best overall build (with due credit to my Ibis Mojo HD) ; I expect that the rest of their line will perform as well.
Keeps getting better every year...
Selling my Ironhorse Sunday - just picked up a new Pivot Phoenix!
Stevie, rock solid again! The guy is awesome.
Read this, if you can.
http://www.google.com/patents?id=wj-TAAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4&source=gbs_overview_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false
Then tell me where in the patent it states that the location of the lower pivot has to be an inch higher or lower than the BB.
Enrico, please note my original comment:
"I'm sure there is a slight change to the instantaneous pivot point which gave them a thin defense." That is to say, that Giant's link is just different enough that the outcome of a patent infringement case would be difficult to predict. What you seem to not understand is that the location of one pivot doesn't necessarily affect the characteristics of the motion (note that every single DW link is totally different - see Turners new DHR vs the old IH Sunday); it is the location of where the instantaneous pivot point is throughout the stroke of the suspension. If you draw a line through the two pivots of the upper link, and then the two pivots of the lower link, they intersect at this IPP. That is where the wheel pivots around at that point of the stroke. While the exact geometry is different for Maestro, the concept and tunability of the design is the same. Arguing with you is like trying to talk to a dog. About Us
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Jul 11, 2011 at 14:10